I figured people would have plenty to say regarding Monday’s screed.
Strangely, no one responded to my mention of Wesley Duke, a bright, engaging fellow who didn’t take himself seriously and was willing to have a picture of himself riding an elephant in Germany posted on the official team website.
The 2005 team had a fascinating collection of tight ends. The group was led by the been-there, done-that world-weariness of Stephen Alexander, a thoughtful player who was realistic about his place in the sport and what he sought to gain from it. There was Nate Jackson, sometime musician and occasional author who is no longer the only person on the 2005 team charter to write for The New York Times. There was Jeb Putzier, whose surname I kept mispronouncing (having taken four years of French, I had to keep myself from to pronouncing it “poot-ZEE-air” rather than his preferred “PUTT-zeer”); he possessed tantalizing talent but never advanced beyond the role of steady reserve.
Then there was Duke, an experiment in converting a basketball player that didn’t work out because of injury — a sad tale the Broncos hope doesn’t repeat itself with Julius Thomas.
Anyway, let’s dive into some of your replies to Monday’s piece:
From Twitter …
- @cjensen79 you where your ideology on your sleeve. If I wanted that type of content, I’d follow Keith Oberman
Had I written in support of Tebow’s comments, would that have been okay? Or does it only irk you when I offer a contrary perspective?
From the comments:
- From cr91: Yes, Tebow is a Christian and at long last you’re free to let loose with the anti-Christian screed that you were probably itching to write but feared to publish while he was still a Bronco and the subject was still slightly relevant. I’m glad you got that out, man, I bet it’s a relief. Look on the bright side – you never have to pretend to be objective about Tebow again, and the equally indistinguishable, “milquetoast” quotes you’ll be hearing from the new Broncos quarterback at various pressers won’t have that distasteful Christian tinge to them. Free at last!
If I followed “free at last” with “Thank God almighty,” would I be a hypocrite? And isn’t jumping to conclusions about the author’s intent grand?
Tebow never said anything to which I objected until now. If someone wants to take a knee and pray in the corner of the game or end zone, fine. If he wants to answer his first press conference question with “I’d like to thank my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,” I can live with it; it seems to be an odd non-sequitur because it is neither germane to the topic broached by the inquisitor nor to the subject at hand: football. But it’s his thing. I didn’t use the quotes about his faith unless it was tied to the topic at hand, which I found to rarely be the case.
This was the first time since the site began in late April 2010 that he said something to which I objected. I’ve got a child on the way, and I don’t want him or her to open a textbook in eight to 10 years’ time and read a warped, distorted version of history that came to pass because agenda-driven revisionists insisted on changing the story to suit their interests.
Writing that piece was a matter of conscience, and I couldn’t rest until I’d written and published it. With my mind and heart at ease, I slept soundly after that.
And if I was anti-Christian, then why did I write this last month about Tebow’s time in Denver?
- From swg777: Your liberalism has blinded your objectivity. Do you honestly believe the concept of “One nation under God” is all about a coin? Do you honestly believe the principle of “One nation under God” did not start until 1954??? Do you honestly believe “One nation under God” means the same thing as establishing a theocracy?
I’m trying to figure out where I mentioned coins or theocracy, or why you need three question marks when just one does fine, but carry on.
- As one who loves history, like yourself, but chooses to be objective about it, unlike yourself, there is little doubt this country was founded on Christian non-denominationalism. It is enlightening that you equate this one Tebow statement into something resembling the Flat Earth Society.
I always find it fascinating how to some people, taking left-of-center viewpoints implies a lack of objectivity, yet being right of center is being neutral. It’s one of those hypocritical fallacies that makes me retch.
If the nation was founded on “Christian non-denominationalism,” why isn’t the name of Christ mentioned in the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution? Why does the Establishment Clause within the first amendment mention nothing of Christianity, but general “religion”? Were these bright minds unaware of other faiths? That notion seems myopic.
- You have made two glaring errors here. First, you have not done enough opposition research. I share the same ideology as Tim Tebow and I do not believe what you assume I do. Second, you decided to talk about something other than football, and I respect this site less because of it.
To the contrary, I’ve engaged in research of multiple sides for years — including studying the claims made by the site you cited, David Barton’s Wallbuilders. I’ve read the Bible and the works of many apologetics; I’ve read Ayn Rand; I’ve read Karl Marx. My life’s reading is all over the political, social and theological spectrum; I find such research essential to my viewpoints and my being. I even went through a multi-year period where on offseason Sundays, I could be found in various churches, listening to sermons to see if I was missing something in my search for a spiritual home.
And you probably won’t like where the site is headed. It’s going to branch beyond football into other sports — as was the original vision.
- From ben: “one nation under God” – oh dear? Stick to football, Mason and leave your belief system on the shelf, please.
If a quarterback can share his opinion, I can share mine. There’s no law that says you have to read it, but there are laws protecting my right to write it — and Tebow’s right to convey his.
- From joshuah: … ur as bad as skip bayless, just the opposite end of the spectrum.
I was unaware that I made false accusations about a quarterback’s personal life or spoke hysterically about the same subject every weekday for months on end.
… And one more thought: Eighteen months ago, I wandered through Hyde Park in London as I walked from Buckingham Palace back to my hotel near the Marble Arch tube station. It was a Sunday morning, which meant the park’s renowned Speakers’ Corner was alive with chatter of the true believers, attempting to influence passers-by.
None held my attention until I heard a Christian and Muslim debating. Both were devout. Both were utterly convinced of the intractability of their claims. A crowd of several dozen stood and listened, occasionally lobbing questions, but generally content to let the two men engage in a verbal re-enactment of the Crusades.
It was riveting. I wanted to jump in. Not so much to get into a lengthy debate, but just to see what would happen if a short man with sweat dripping from beneath his Atlanta Braves cap interjected, “You’re both wrong!”
Then I glanced at my phone to check the time. It was 11:15 a.m.; I’d been walking about Westminster for four hours, and I needed to eat, shower, pack and head for Wembley Stadium.
My first performance at Speakers’ Corner would have to wait for another trip. I had an assignment: a Broncos game starting in a few hours.
So you see where my priority lies.